APRIL 22, 2003 @ 7:30 PM
MEMBERS PRESENT: John Lowe, David Hamann, Jean Root, Jim Anderson,
John Ambrose, Township Planner
Bob Hanvey, Township Supervisor
Annette McNamara, Zoning Administrator
CALL TO ORDER
Lowe called the Regular Meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Lowe added a discussion on Open Spaces at the end of New Business.
Debra Wiedman-Clawson motioned to approve the agenda as amended. Jim Anderson seconded.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Regular meeting minutes of 3/25/2003
Dave Hamann motioned to approve the minutes pending verification of Tax I.D. code for AT&T Wireless Services
Lease Parcel. Tax code noted at the bottom of page 2 on drawings received 3/25/03. Jean Root seconded.
Public Hearing – AT&T COMMUNICATION TOWER minutes of 3/25/2003
Root motioned to approve the minutes as amended. Jim Anderson seconded. Motion
Blossom Farms amendment to Final Site Plan
Brent LaVanway from Boss Engineering representing Adler Enterprises made a presentation for proposed
to the final site plan.
1. Proposing the roads within the development remain private. Roads will meet the Livingston County Road
Commission (LCRC) standards.
Brent Lavanway referenced Mike Kehoe, Township Attorney and John Ambrose, Township Planner review letters
that stated the need to execute a separate Private Road Maintenance Agreement. Brent LaVanway will bring
documents to the
Planning Commission with
the request to begin phase 3.
2. Propose removing the meandering walkway and constructing a centralized play structure in Blossom Park.
Families within the development have expressed a deeper interest for an active play area than for additional walking
trails. The sidewalks along the street and a pathway connection along
County Farm Road will remain in the plans.
Propose removing the shelter structure in front of
the development and replacing with a sign.
if the proposed Private road was an issue with the current residents that purchased with the understanding that the
roads would be public. Brent LaVanway responded that in the Master Deed the developer retains the option of
the roads private or turning them over to the LCRC.
adjacent parcels if the roads were to remain private. Options were discussed on possible changes in the road layout
that would not cross the Edison right-of-way so the roads could be public. Bob Hanvey added he was still having
discussions with Detroit Edison Public Relations liaison Paul Gantz in reference to the conflict with the LCRC in
of resolving the situation.
Bob Hanvey will continue working with Detroit Edison and the LCRC. Issues to be discussed when developer
a request for phase 3.
Jean Root motioned to table Blossom Farms Estates Amended Final Site Plan until discussed issues have been
resolved and applicant requests placement on a forth-coming agenda. Jim Anderson seconded.
Roll call vote: Jim Anderson, Jean Root, John Lowe, Dave Hamann, Debra Wiedman-Clawson – all yes.
Section 17.10 – Communication Towers
Ambrose reviewed the document with revisions.
Jean Root noted that in statement g. on page 3 the words at maturity were suppose to be removed and insert
at time of planting. Jean also noted that on page 8 in the Lot Zoning paragraph the word block should be changed
Jean Root motioned to approve section 17.10 Communication Towers as amended to include corrections.
copy to be sent to the Zoning Administrator to forward to Township Board for
Jim Anderson seconded. Roll call vote: Debra Wiedman-Clawson, Dave Hamann, Jim Anderson, Jean Root,
Lowe, – all yes. Motion carried 5-0
6.14 – Home Occupation
Debra Weidman-Clawson motioned to table proposed ordinance amendment 6.14 Home Occupation until the next
regularly scheduled Planning
of Site Plan Checklist
John Ambrose presented the Marion Township Site Plan Application Checklist and noted that it was taken right out
of Section 18.03 –Data required for Site Plan. John Ambrose mentioned the Site Plan Checklist could be turned in
with the application for site plan review. John will meet with Annette next week and decide if the checklist needs to
be expanded on.
It will be read for the board to review at the next regularly
site plan checklist indicate what agencies needed to have this information forwarded to them. Mr. Ambrose
mentioned normally the Township is the distributor of those. The Township when submitting these to the proper
agencies can tell them that they have a certain period of time to respond and if they do not respond within that time
we assume they have no issue at hand. Debra Wiedman-Clawson and Jean Root mentioned their concern about
being handed papers at the meeting with no time to review which would be eliminated with a time restraint of
accepting documents before a
Discussion was held between John Lowe, Debra Wiedman-Clawson and Jean Root regarding a review step now
being done not required by the current ordinance. John Ambrose stated that a minor amendment to Section 18.03
Jean Root motioned to table
the review of site plan checklist to the next regularly scheduled meeting.
Weidman-Clawson seconded. Motion
Section 3.02 - Definition of Lot Lines
John Ambrose at the request of the Planning Commission submitted the following proposed language (Zoning
Ordinance text amendment) that clarifies how side lot lines intersect a front property line or street/road right-of-way
It is recommended that two areas of the Zoning Ordinance be amended
to achieve this goal.
Section 3.02 Definition of Lot
Line . New language
1. Side Lot Line: Any lot line other than a front or rear lot line, which shall be at right angles to straight
streets and radial to curved streets and cul-de-sacs, except where such lot lines would create unusual,
or irregular lot shapes.
The above amendment would
cover side lot lines as they intersect any “public” or “private”
Section 6.20 F by adding
a new item number 4 to read as follows:
4. Any lot located on a cul-de-sac shall have its side lot lines designed to be radial to the front
property line or right-of-way line, except where such lot lines would create unusual, inconvenient, or
Planning Commission member suggested placing
cul-de-sac guidelines in Section 6.11 & 6.20.
Jean Root motioned to table proposed ordinance amendments Section 3.02 Definition of Lot Lines and
Section 6.02 F Private Road
cul-de-sac to the next regularly scheduled meeting with revisions as
Anderson seconded. Motion carried 5-0
SPACE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE
John Lowe reported on his discussions with John Ambrose, Mike Boss and Mike Kehoe on an Open Space
Preservation option project for Boss Engineering. John Lowe said that in general it was not site specific.
Boss Engineering submitted a parallel plan using the premise that you would be able to use a centralized drain field
to increase the number of lots on the parallel plan. In conventional subdivisions each lot must perk in order to build on.
Through discussions with John Ambrose, Mike Boss and Mike Kehoe the language of the current zoning ordinance
does not support that. A possible concern would be dense population. (A 100-acre parcel would only need 5 acres
that would perk in order to develop the whole parcel.) John Lowe expressed his opinion on the need to amend the
zoning ordinance. John Ambrose said the ordinance could be amended.
Jean Root motioned to table any new language regarding open space calculations for parallel plans to the next
regularly scheduled meeting.
Root motioned to adjourn the meeting at 9:35 p.m.
CALL TO ORDER:
APPROVAL OF AGENDA FOR: APRIL 22, 2003
APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM :
MARCH 25, 2003 REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 25, 2003 PUBIC HEARING
BLOSSOM FARMS AMENDMENT TO FINAL SITE PLAN
PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS:
SECTION 17.10 - COMMUNICATIONS TOWERS
SECTION 6.14 - HOME OCCUPATION
REVIEW OF SITE PLAN CHECKLIST
PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS:
SECTION 3.02 - DEFINITION OF LOT LINES
#3 SIDE LOT LINE
SECTION 6.20 F CUL-DE-SACS - NEW ITEM #4
CALL TO THE PUBLIC: