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                                   MARION TOWNSHIP 

   PROPOSED MINUTES - PUBLIC HEARING 

              OCTOBER 28, 2003 @ 7:15 PM

       

MEMBERS PRESENT:   Jim Anderson, Debra Wiedman-Clawson, Dave Hamann, John Lowe, Jean Root

MEMBERS ABSENT:      None

OTHERS PRESENT:      John Ambrose, Planning Consultant

                                          Bob Hanvey, Township Supervisor

                                          Annette McNamara, Zoning Administrator                                          

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CALL TO ORDER  

John Lowe called the meeting to order at 7:15 p.m.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA

Dave Hamann made a motion to accept the agenda.  Jean Root seconded.  Motion carried 5-0.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES

None.

OLD BUSINESS    

Proposed Rezoning Application #RZN 3-03 from Suburban Residential To Urban Residential

Mike Boss appeared on behalf of Adler Development proposing rezoning of 27 acre parcel of land from 

Suburban Residential (SR) to Urban Residential (UR). John Ambrose referred to his August 13, 2003 letter 

pointing out that rezoning petitions are reviewed in relationship to Master Plan, land use patterns and zoning.  

John Ambrose stated current Master Plan calls for this area to be in an area classified as Mixed Urban, which 

has a number of uses that would be proposed for this area:  1) residential allowing 8-10 units per acre, others 

would be commercial type businesses such as service stations, hotels, motels, etc.  John Ambrose stated he

 would not recommend commercial for this site.

John Ambrose’s recommendation would be to approve this rezoning from SR to UR based on following criteria:

1.         Proposed rezoning is consistent with existing land use patterns found in area.

2.        Proposed rezoning is basically in harmony with existing zoning patterns found especially to the west 

        and south of the site.

3.        Proposed rezoning is in keeping with the Master Plan.

4.        Proposed rezoning and potential land use which in this case would be mobile home family classification

 which would provide an excellent land use buffer along I-96 corridor, directly north and adjacent to this parcel 

 to the residential developments that are basically south of Francis Road.

John Ambrose stated the rezoning does not have anything to do with what they are proposing on this map. 

He stated anything to do with development of this site is subject to two other steps: 1) Special Use Approval 

and, 2) Site Plan. Based on the above information, he would recommend approval of this rezoning.

CALL TO THE PUBLIC

Jack Lowe read letters of opposition from area residents: Louise Dodd, 1722 Fox Ridge;

Linda Casterline, 393 Newberry Lane; Debra Simpkins, 95 Newberry Lane.

Dave Smith, 328 Francis, asked what mixed urban is. John Ambrose explained that the Master Plan is used as

a principal guide to make decisions on future zoning. The Master Plan calls for this area to be Mixed Use.

Mr. Smith stated he would like the Planning Commission to disapprove the rezoning from SR to UR.

Louise Dodd, 1722 Fox Ridge, asked what portion is considered wetlands. Mike Boss stated the only wetland 

area is a pothole in front.  Jack Lowe pointed out there is steep topography that runs along Francis Road and 

there can be no building there or access in that area.

Horace Cole, 918 Francis Road, requested a traffic light for Francis Road and D-19 due to high traffic volume.

The following spoke against the development:  

Marie Blackett, 109 Newberry Lane; Jean Kreager, 240 Newberry Lane; Al Smith, 1104 Elk Run.

Tom Klebba, 1615 Triangle Lake Road, stated he sat in on the visioning sessions the township conducted in 

the early ‘90s when the Master Plan was developed. This proposal to rezone meets the criteria set forth in 

Master Plan. The roads will catch up to the development.  He is in favor of rezoning as set forth in the Master 

Plan.  Dave Smith, 328 Francis, asked what is involved in Special Use Permit and stated one of the special

uses is trailer parks.  John Ambrose stated the Planning Commission has to be convinced that all criteria is 

met that is set forth by the ordinance. Dave Smith questioned one of the Special Uses is Mobile Home Parks.

John Ambrose stated that is not correct. They have their own districts. Mr. Smith pointed out that this is in the

ordinance.  Annette McNamara cited No. 12, Item D, Special Use Permit that addresses two family recreational

multiple family, Mobile Home Park. John Ambrose stated that was supposed to have been removed from the

ordinance. Dave Smith requested that proposed rezoning not be accepted until this change is reflected in the 

ordinance. Ron Hill, 4760 Winding Way, also suggested not approving rezoning until the language is corrected 

in the ordinance. Richard St. Onge, 693 Francis Road, stated the old Master Plan in the ‘70s was classified as

trailer parks. Debra Wiedman-Clawson stated Master Plan showed Mixed Urban (MU) in 1992. However, the 

service district also showed Urban Service District. The definition on that was paved roads, public sewer, public

water, fire and utility services.

ADJOURNMENT

Dave Hamann made a motion to close the Public Hearing at 7:49  p.m. Jean Root seconded. 

Motion carried 5-0.

   

                 PLANNING COMMISSION 

               REGULAR MEETING @ 7:30 PM

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:  Jim Anderson, Debra Wiedman-Clawson, Dave Hamann, John Lowe, Jean Root

MEMBERS ABSENT:       None

OTHERS PRESENT:       John Ambrose, Planning Consultant

Bob Hanvey, Township Supervisor

                                                Annette McNamara, Zoning Administrator                                           

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CALL TO ORDER

John Lowe called the meeting to order at 7:50 p.m.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA

John Lowe proposed to move the ordinance amendments after Old Business. Annette McNamara requested 

adding discussion of December 15, 2003 meeting regarding what can go on agenda and what can’t under new

business. Jean Root proposed adding the discussion of next meeting and change time for next Comprehensive

 Plan meeting. Dave Hamann made a motion to amend the agenda.  Jean Root seconded. 

Motion carried 5-0.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES

August 26, 2003 Regular Meeting

Dave Hamann pointed out that changes from the August 26, 2003 were all on the first page and they are all okay.

Jean Root made a motion to approve the minutes from the August 26, 2003 regular meeting as submitted. Jim 

Anderson seconded. Motion carried 5-0.

September 23, 2003 Public Hearing Minutes – Section 3.02 Definition of Lot Line #3 Side Lot Line

Jean Root made a motion to approve the September 23, 2003 minutes from the Public Hearing on Section 3.02 

Definition of Lot Line #3 Side Lot Line.  Dave Hamann seconded. Motion carried 5-0.

September 23, 2003 Public Hearing Minutes – Section 6.20 Cul-de-Sacs

Dave Hamann made a motion to accept the minutes for September 23, 2003 Public Hearing on Section 6.20 

Cul-de-Sacs.  Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded. Motion carried 5-0.

September 23, 2003 Public Hearing Minutes – Section 6.29 Open Space Preservation

Jean Root made a motion to approve the Public Hearing minutes from September 23, 2003 for Section 6.29, Open Space 

Preservation.  Dave Hamann seconded. Motion carried 5-0.

September 23, 2003 Public Hearing Minutes – RZN #3-03

Jean Root stated that the last three paragraphs on page three should be deleted since they are in regular meeting minutes

Jean Root made a motion to accept the minutes for September 23, 2003 Public Hearing for the rezoning of Tax ID 

#4710-01-300-30, 031, and 032 as amended.  Jim Anderson seconded.

Motion carried 5-0.

September 23, 2003 Regular Meeting Minutes

Debra Wiedman-Clawson noted on page 4, a typo, first line, should be first time instead of “this” time.

Jean Root made a motion to accept the regular Planning Commission meeting minutes for September 23, 2003

as amended. Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded.  Motion carried 5-0.  

OLD BUSINESS

Proposed Rezoning Application #RZN 3-03 from Suburban Residential to Urban Residential 

Jean Root questioned John Ambrose on whether Planning Commission can look at what development is proposed if 

rezoned?  John Ambrose stated no. Jean Root stated based on density going from Suburban Residential (SR) to 

Urban Residential (UR), a 25% increase in density would be gained, which would be without special permitting. It

would be an automatic upgrade. John Lowe voiced concern over layout of property being U-shaped.  That creates a 

situation with different zoning on all sides. That is not a good situation.  John Lowe’s major concern in changing 

zoning to higher density is the burden of increased traffic flow. Jean Root agreed with John Lowe regarding increased 

traffic flow. John Lowe stated from a safety standpoint regarding the road situation this would preclude this at this time.

Mike Boss in response stated there is nothing to suggest this is a safety issue.  Mike Boss stated if they proposed 

increasing density from 20,000 to 15,000 square feet, that is when a traffic study is requested. Mike Boss stated bottom

line is to ask if this is a proper zone for this property given the layout of the land and according to the current Master 

Plan. Mike Boss stated they are here for a recommendation on the rezoning itself.

Debra Wiedman-Clawson stated that in the Master Plan paved roads, sewer/water, fire and police services are noted 

under the service district. Mike Boss questioned what is meant by service district. John Lowe stated it’s where sewer 

and water district are proposed to be. Debra Wiedman-Clawson asked for clarification regarding rezoning to UR. 

Whether commercial is or is not allowed? John Ambrose stated commercial is not allowed. To clarify, John Ambrose 

stated urban mixed classification in the Master Plan calls for residential with high density and says it is ideal for 

commercial, office, light industrial, but current zoning does not allow for commercial.

John Lowe also pointed out that the Livingston County Health Department (LCHD) would not recommend a Mobile 

Home Park adjacent to I-96 expressway. The density of housing would not be environmentally safe and/or a sound 

community.  Debra Wiedman-Clawson also pointed out another concern of the LCHD were the pipelines. A power 

line easement runs through the property proposed for rezoning. John Lowe also asked if it is economically feasible to 

develop the property under the current SR zoning. Mike Boss stated it is not economically feasible to develop this 

property under SR. Jean Root made a motion to deny the request for rezoning, 

Application #3-03, Tax Code #1001-300-030, 031, 032 for the reasons listed below:

1)      Is the rezoning justified by change or changing conditions in the area? It is the opinion of the Planning Commission 

that it is not justified based upon the reasons in items 3-8 to be provided.

2)      Is the rezoning consistent with the Township’s future land use plan and established land use patterns? No, it is not 

for the following reasons:  The property is on a secondary road and not a paved public road and it creates isolated zoning districts.

3)      Would the amendment create an isolated district unrelated to the adjacent district? Yes, it would.

4)      What is the capability of providing public utilities, roads and services if the rezoning is approved?  At this time the 

existing road is a secondary road and not a paved road.

5)      Would the rezoning be compatible with neighboring properties? No.  The minutes from the Public Hearing should 

be included as well as letters received on the rezoning issue.

6)      Will the rezoning adversely affect the value of these properties?  Please refer to the Public Hearing minutes and 

letters received on rezoning issue.

7)      Is it economically feasible to develop the property under the current zoning? It is the opinion of the Planning 

Commission that it is economically feasible to develop the property as it is currently zoned.

8)      Are there adequate sites elsewhere in the community for the proposed use? Yes, there are.  For example, directly 

behind the Best Western property.

Jim Anderson seconded.  Motion carried 5-0.

Dave Hamann asked if this is a motion to deny or a recommendation. John Ambrose stated this still goes to the Township 

Board for its consideration.

John Lowe stated the recommendation is to deny the rezoning and send the request to the Township Board for its review.

Final Site Plan Review – Stone Garden (formerly Tonch Private Drive)

Brad Thompson appeared on behalf of Mr. Erwin Tonch. This is a proposed 129 acre parcel division east of Pingree Road,

 ¾ mile south of Vines Road. It is not a site condominium and not a proposed plat.  They are requesting 17 parcel divisions 

with the 18th being the remaining parent parcel. The next step is to submit actual construction plans to the Livingston 

County Road Commission. They have received Livingston County Health Department approval on all the perks for these 

sites and they are all proposed to be on individual single family wells.  They have also received conceptual approval of the

plan from Ken Recker, Livingston County Drain Commissioner.

John Lowe also stated that as far as road construction, it would be turned over to the Livingston County Road Commission.

Debra Wiedman-Clawson pointed out in Section 6.25, 6.26 regarding sidewalks and street lights and development, 

township definition addresses any land use being constructed.

Jean Root made a motion to accept the plans for Tax Code 4710-31-200-005. Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded. 

Motion carried 5-0.

NEW BUSINESS

MHOG Expansion Plant – Site Plan Review #5-03

Gary Markstrom from Tetra Tech appeared on behalf of the MHOG Expansion Plant.

Two things are being proposed on behalf of the MHOG Authority:

1)      New well site and wellhouse on 20 acre parcel, which will service Marion Township; small building, 20 x 25 in size; 

housing well and electrical gear, unmanned and work in conjunction with three other systems.

2)      Second phase of the project is a treatment plant expansion raising capacity of treatment plant from 4 million 

gallons a day to 12 million gallons a day.

There were comments from Orchard, Hiltz & McCliment (OHM) who reviewed the plan. The few things that were 

mentioned (things that were not labeled such as slopes, size of pipes) will be corrected and resubmitted to township.

John Ambrose had a question regarding planting list and existing trees. There will be 11 spruce trees along north side of 

drive, four along the front entrance and relocating eight trees along berm that will be regraded.

John Ambrose suggested that areas should be irrigated where primary landscaping is going in.

Jim Anderson asked if this aquifer is related to the Green Oaks one. It is not. It is in the Marshall sandstone.

Lighting was questioned. There will be site lighting and sidewalks extended to building entrances.

Debra Wiedman-Clawson asked for clarification on a Michigan Department of Environmental Quality (MDEQ) permit 

for Well #4. Gary Markstrom responded they have test site approval with a letter from the MDEQ. They will not issue 

the permit for the construction of the building until after they get the results of the test well. 

Debra Wiedman-Clawson also has a concern with the 100 foot isolation distance extending underneath the asphalt 

driveway.  Gary Markstrom stated this drawing was discussed with the MDEQ and they did not have a concern with 

asphalt drive across the 100 foot isolation area.  He will provide a copy of the MDEQ preliminary site approval of the

test well location. Jean Root made a motion to approve the MHOG water plant expansion, Application # SPR 5-03,

 with the following conditions:  Comments included from letter dated 10/17/03 from John Ambrose; letter dated 10/21/03 

from Orchard, Hiltz & McCliment, Inc.; letter dated 10/14/03 from the Livingston County Road Commission; letter dated

10/14/03 from Howell Fire Department; copy of MDEQ letter regarding test well site approval to be provided for file.

Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded.  Motion carried 5-0.

Proposed Rezoning Application #RZN-4-03 from SR to UR

Paula Hoeft, Atwell-Hicks appeared on behalf of Crescendo Homes to set a Public Hearing.

Jean Root made a motion to hold the Public Hearing for Crescendo Communities, Application #RZN 4-03 on 

November 25, 2003 at 7:15 p.m.  Jim Anderson seconded. Motion carried 5-0.

There was discussion regarding the Comprehensive Planning meeting to take place on November 6, 2003 to start at 6:00 p.m.

Proposed Ordinance Amendments

Section 6.14 – Home Occupation

Jean Root made a motion to table Section 6.14 Home Occupation until the December 15, 2003 Planning Commission 

meeting. Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded. Motion carried 5-0.

Section 3.02 – Definition of Lot Lines #3 Side Lot Line

John Ambrose stated that with regards to proposed side lot lines and cul-de-sac issues, numerous communities use that 

basic definition to define side lot lines and also define cul-de-sacs.  Debra Wiedman-Clawson raised the question would

there be a problem adding under the definition of lot line, Item # 4 from the October 21, 2003 letter (front page, second

paragraph), “…in the case where the above definitions are not sufficient to designate lot lines, the Zoning Administrator

shall designate the front, rear and side lot lines in consideration of the orientation of the buildings…”

John Ambrose will draft language to be added to the definition section. It will then be sent to the Township Board.

Section 6.20 F Cul-de-Sacs – new Item #4

This section will be sent to the Township Board for approval as written.

Section 6.29 Open Space Preservation

John Ambrose referred to a Livingston County Department of Planning (LCDP) comment regarding Open Space 

Preservation Amendment comment that suggested a new item about greenbelt buffers.  The language for Amendment 

came out of a joint meeting with the Marion Township Planning Commission, Marion Township Board of Trustees, and 

Township Attorney, Mike Kehoe. This section will be sent to the Township Board for approval as written.

John Ambrose stated that a motion can be made for all sections. Jean Root  made a motion to send to the Township 

Board for their approval Section 6.20 F, Cul-de-Sacs as written; Section 6.29, Open Space Preservation Option as 

written, and Section 3.02 to be amended to add item four as submitted by the LCDP, letter dated October 21, 2003. 

Jim Anderson seconded. Motion carried 5-0.

In further comment regarding Stone Garden and Tonch Drive, John Lowe stated that Tonch Drive falls under the

jurisdiction of the Road Commission and Drain Commission and they will have to take care of the issue of the center of

 the retention pond and they will have to drill on that. John Lowe will ask the Health Department about what it is they 

are requiring.

CALL TO THE PUBLIC

Tom Klebba, 1615 Triangle Lake Road, expressed three concerns:

1. Requested that there be a Call to the Public at the beginning of meeting. Annette McNamara will add 

    Call to Public at the beginning of agenda and comments will be limited to three minutes.

2. Remove home occupation from the agenda until ready to be presented.

3. Triangle Lake residents have been concerned with a home that has been burned out and abandoned for 

several years. It is not only an eyesore but poses a dangerous situation. Annette McNamara has called owners. 

Dave Hamann commented the Township Board suggested residents go to the Planning Commission to 

request a zoning ordinance for dangerous buildings. Residents have been asked to come to the Planning 

Commission. John Lowe suggested having Township attorney send a letter to owners to take care of it or 

it will go to court to remove hazardous nuisance. Tom Klebba is here to request something be done.

ADJOURNMENT

Jean Root made a motion to adjourn the Regular Planning Commission meeting at 10:15 p.m. Debra

 Wiedman-Clawson seconded. Motion carried 5-0.