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    Draft Minutes

                    MARION TOWNSHIP 

    Planning Commission - Public Hearing

       December 15, 2003 


MEMBERS PRESENT:    Jim Anderson, Debra Wiedman-Clawson, Dave Hamann, 

                                            John Lowe, Jean Root

MEMBERS ABSENT:            None

OTHERS PRESENT:             John Ambrose, Planning Consultant

Bob Hanvey, Township Supervisor

Kathleen Kline-Hudson, Livingston County Planning    


                                                Annette McNamara, Zoning Administrator




John Lowe called the meeting to order at 7:15 p.m.


Dave Hamann made a motion to approve the Public Hearing agenda for December 15, 2003. Jim Anderson 

seconded.  Motion carried 5-0.






Rezoning Application RZN #7-03

Richard Hartigan appeared on behalf of Schonsheck, Inc., for the request of rezoning proposed property from Light 

Industrial (LI) to Urban Residential (UR). The property is located north of the CSX Railroad and west of Lucy Road.

This will be a joint venture between Darakjian Properties and Varsity Drive Company.  Use of this land is light industrial 

due to wetlands and heavy terrain that is not conducive to LI.

John Lowe asked if their map includes mitigation areas; yes, it does.  Mr. Hartigan pointed out the south is buffered by 

the wetland area.  John Lowe also questioned one access point out to Lucy Road.  Mr. Hartigan stated they are 

proposing to work on National Street north and one east and west. 

John Ambrose reviewed his letter of December 4 and stated applicant described property quite well that the land north

of the site is zoned LI. The Township Master Plan calls for mixed urban housing up to 8-10 units per acre. It also allows 

a number of commercial and industrial uses.  This proposed use for residential is consistent with Master Plan.

John Ambrose’s reasons for recommendation are as follows:

1.      The proposed UR zoning will provide a buffer between residential uses to the west (City of Howell) and the 

      existing land use patterns found in the northern portion of the subject site as there are existing industrial uses 

    that are located adjacent to or in close proximity to this portion of the subject site.

     2.      Also, the UR, Urban Residential District, as previously noted, is a high density residential category that is capable

          of having single-family detached units developed at a density of 2.9 units per acre and up to 10 units per acre for 

          multiple-family developments, which are permitted in the UR District.  This land use category is consistent with the 

         Township’s current comprehensive plan or master plan.

    3.      The proposed rezoning is more suitable the northwest corner of the subject site due to the extreme topography

        found in this general area with the remaining area being suitable due to the location of significant wetland areas, 

        which would require more flexibility in design for a future development, which would be more feasible with 

        residential uses that it would be with industrial uses.

John Lowe questioned a second gas well that comes off Fowler, off the subdivision into the eastern part that does not 

show.  Mr. Hartigan commented that this is a recent survey.


Sig Fleischmann, 1031 Tanager Trail, stated the map does not show his property. He pointed out there is a

complex, Nelson Ridge, scheduled to go in which is not on the drawing.  He also pointed out building 

apartments/condos near a railroad track may not attract people to these and the property will deteriorate.

Fern Brockway, Regle Recycling, expressed concern with new people moving into the area and they will be unhappy 

with the nature of his business and want restrictions and change. Mr. Brockway suggested a buffer so they can’t build

so close to property line.  John Lowe stated rezoning LI to UR would not have an impact on adjoining property. John 

Ambrose clarified that a site plan has to have final approval by Planning Commission and a site plan has to reflect all 

the wetlands.  John Lowe pointed out there’s a substantial wetland there. The majority of the units will be quite a 

distance west of Lucy Road.

Mrs. Brockway commented by virtue of the nature of the business conducted on the property why would anyone want

to live there anyways. Also, this could be considered an attractive nuisance to children.

David Michels, 405 S. National Street, asked about an industrial road at subject site, which is a truck route. John Lowe 

stated the rezoning project may have more impact on Michels due to no wetlands. Mr. Michels suggested coming 

off Fair Street instead of National Street.  Mr. Hartigan stated they do not have a right of way in there. Mr. Michels

suggested berming property. Jean Root suggested contacting township attorney to address this issue to continue their 

business and provide a means of protecting their rights for the future. 




Jean Root made a motion to close the Public Hearing for Rezoning Application RZN #7-03 at 7:55 p.m. 

Jim Anderson seconded.  Motion carried 5-0.


             Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

MEMBERS PRESENT:     Jim Anderson, Debra Wiedman-Clawson, Dave Hamann,

                                             John Lowe, Jean Root

MEMBERS ABSENT:            None

OTHERS PRESENT:             John Ambrose, Planning Consultant

Bob Hanvey, Township Supervisor

                                                Annette McNamara, Zoning Administrator




John Lowe called the meeting to order at 7:55 p.m.


Dave Hamann made a motion to amend the December 15, 2003 agenda to set the RZN 7-03 under Old

Business for January 27, 2004 at 7:30 p.m. Jean Root seconded.  Motion carried 5-0.


Jim Barnwell appeared on behalf of Sundance Meadows for issues that were retracted; Wolf Ridge site plan

changes; request a special meeting for Cascade Development.

Wolf Ridge subdivision was approved subject to Michigan Department of Environmental Quality (MDEQ)

approval on bridge due to site plan amendment. Mr. Barnwell distributed a handout.  John Lowe requested a

letter from engineer stating he concurs.

John Lowe asked about Master Deed and bridge maintenance.  Mr. Barnwell stated it’s a private road and all is

included in Master Deed and Bylaws.  John Lowe would like clarification on bridge maintenance. John Lowe

stated there’s been discussion regarding discrepancies on property line and deer fencing.

Mr. Barnwell stated survey years ago followed the fence line. He also stated an affidavit was obtained from

area resident. John Lowe asked if Mr. Barnwell’s survey matches the Boss Engineering survey.  Mr. Barnwell

stated it does and the property is the northeast corner of Blossom Farms. The property is about 30 x 20, about

600 square feet. Mr. Barnwell distributed handout regarding Sundance Meadows confirming benchmark added

on to plans and stated technical issues regarding retention pond were taken care of with Livingston County

Road Commission (LCRC), Livingston County Drain Commission (LCDC), Livingston County Health

Department (LCHD).  Next is final preliminary plat where technical issues can be addressed.

John Lowe pointed out two lots were drawn in for a park being donated at Triangle Lake. They were on one

sheet and not the other. Mr. Barnwell stated that was due to pending approval.

John Lowe stated two big issues were the lots in the park and how the retention pond, depending on high water,

would affect the building envelopes on a couple lots.

Mr. Barnwell appeared to request a special meeting for Cascade Development to primarily review history of

this project and stated a workshop may be a good way to address a number of issues, such as, location of

community facilities. John Ambrose stated it would have to be set up as a Public Hearing and advertised to

public. It was agreed to set up special meeting. Mr. Barnwell’s company will pay for the special meeting.

Jean Root made a motion to hold a special meeting on January 12, 2004 at 7:00 p.m. to meet with Barnwell

 & Associates regarding Cascade Development.  Jim Anderson seconded.

Debra Wiedman-Clawson abstained.  Motion carried 4-0. 


Rezoning Application RZN #8-03 – Set Public Hearing for January 27, 2004

Roger Myers appeared on behalf of applicant for Rezoning Application RZN 8-03, and requested to also be

added to January 12, 2004 hearing for a special meeting.  It was explained there’s not enough publication

time to add this request to January 12th special meeting, which is no more than 30 days and no less than 20.

Annette McNamara explained she needs at least three day lead time to advertise in paper.

John Lowe stated due to the enormity of the Cascade project it should be scheduled alone for a special


Mr. Myers asked for a point of clarification regarding rezoning from Suburban Residential (SR) to Urban

Residential (UR).  A mixed use of a PUD requires a rezoning.  Rezoning from SR to UR requires a township

rezoning act.  Mr. Myers requested in a previous request to township members that these two rezoning

applications be considered simultaneously.  Mr. Myers requested that Public Hearing notice provide for the

ultimate proposal use of PUD.

John Lowe stated he feels they should be handled individually. 

John Ambrose suggested contacting township attorney.  One problem with hearing both simultaneously is

that you have no idea what the outcome will be.  If the rezoning application comes in and is accepted and

zoned to UR, then you can accept a PUD.

John Lowe agreed and pointed out that when you combine the two you risk it becoming confusing to an

audience and members of Planning Commission. Annette McNamara stated she did contact township

attorney due to Boss Engineering making the same attempt with Marion Oaks.  The planner and attorney

both said no. Jean Root made a motion to hold a special hearing which will also be published as a Public

Hearing for Rezoning Application 8-03 meeting to be held on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 at 7:00 p.m. 

Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded.  Motion carried 5-0.


November 25, 2003 – Public Hearing Rezoning Application #RZN 4-03

Jean Root made a motion to approve as submitted.  Dave Hamann seconded.  Motion carried 5-0.

November 25, 2003 Planning Commission Regular Meeting

Following discussion regarding the minutes, it was decided that more detail needs to be added to the

October 28, 2003 minutes as follows:  “Jack Lowe thought minutes should be reviewed again and review tape

to confirm the October 28, 2003 minutes.” Jean Root made a motion to approve as amended. 

Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded. Motion carried 5-0.

November 6, 2003 Comprehensive Planning Meeting

Jean Root stated on page 2 of 4, 6th paragraph, after second paragraph from bottom, statement needs to be

added that conservation district will be taken out.  It was suggested to read as follows: …”after further

discussion it was decided that the conservation district would be eliminated from that section.”

Dave Hamann approved as amended.  Jim Anderson seconded. Motion carried 5-0.

October 28, 2003 Regular Meeting

Jean Root suggested Schroeder Park Drive discussion be added to read as follows:

-          discussion regarding Schroeder Park Drive took place as single point of access.

-          Letters from property owners be referenced.

-          Item 3 regarding isolated property needs more detail – SR property surrounded by UR property.

      It was pointed out that it was verbatim.

Dave Hamann made a motion to accept minutes as amended.  Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded. 

Motion carried 5-0.


Kathleen Kline-Hudson appeared to review items for presentation.  (Review of presentation posters, maps, etc.)