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PLANNING
COMMISSION AGENDA REGULAR
MEETING December
27, 2005 7:30
p.m. CALL TO ORDER: APPROVAL OF AGENDA FOR:
December 27, 2005 Regular Meeting CALL TO THE PUBLIC:
Agenda Items only – 3 minute limit APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM:
November 14, 2005 Special Meeting November
22, 2005 Regular Meeting OLD BUSINESS: 1)
Proposed Text Amendment
Standards for 2)
Subdivision
Control Ordinance (General Ordinance) 3)
Section 8.01 F 6 & 7 –
Rural Residential Site Development Requirements 4)
Section 8.02 F 6 & 7 –
Suburban Residential Site Development Requirements 5)
Section 3.02 – Definitions
for Landscape Buffers 6)
Section
6.18 F 1 & G – Condominium Projects 7)
Planning
Commission budget discussion 8)
City
of NEW BUSINESS: CALL TO THE PUBLIC: ADJOURNMENT: DRAFT MINUTES
MEMBERS PRESENT:
JOHN LOWE, CHAIRPERSON
DAVE HAMANN
JIM ANDERSON
JEAN ROOT, SECRETARY
DEBRA WIEDMAN-CLAWSON OTHERS PRESENT:
ROBERT W. HANVEY,
SUPERVISOR
ANNETTE MCNAMARA, ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
PHIL WESTMORELAND, O, H & M
PAUL SIERSMA, CARLISLE/WORTMAN ****************************************************************** The meeting was called
to order at 7:30 p.m. APPROVAL OF
AGENDA Jean Root requested
the two New Business items be moved ahead of the Old Business items. Jean Root motioned
approve the December 27, 2005 Planning Commission agenda as amended.
Jim Anderson seconded. Motion
carried 5-0. INTRODUCTION OF
MEMBERS John Lowe, Jean Root,
Jim Anderson, Debra Wiedman-Clawson, and Dave Hamann were present.
CALL TO THE
PUBLIC None heard. APPROVAL OF
MINUTES Jean Root motioned to
approved the November 14, 2005 Planning Commission special meeting minutes.
Dave Hamann seconded. Debra
Wiedman-Clawson abstained. Motion
carried 4-0. Jean Root motioned to
approved the November 22, 2005 Planning Commission regular minutes. Jim
Anderson seconded. Motion
carried 5-0. NEW BUSINESS Pat Keough of
Advantage Civil Engineering gave an overview of the proposed development.
This 40 acre parcel will be developed into 25 units on a private road
with two land divisions at Pat Keough addressed
the concerns of Carlisle/Wortman Associates, Inc. regarding the connection
to the Black Eagle Development to the south.
Black Eagle is 72 lots on private roads controlled by the Homeowners
Association. To get them all to
agree to a connection would be impossible.
He suggested an easement to serve residents now and be a possible
connection in the future. Pat Keough noted with
private road and drainage this development could be reviewed by the
Livingston County Drain Commissioners Office or the township engineer.
He asked that Paul Siersma,
Carlisle/Wortman summarized his review letter.
The applicant has addressed his concerns with the concept of a park
easement. The main concern is
the long parcel and the future. As the township develops there will be many
outlets onto primary roads. Carlisle/Wortman
would like to see the tree removal at a minimum.
The buffering along the pole section was a strict interpretation of
the zoning ordinance. Phil Westmoreland
summarized his review letter. They
have everything for a preliminary plan.
For final approval notes and minor items need to be added to the
plan. He would like to see
septic fields on a few lots moved to limit tree removal.
Also, clarify the limits of removal for the entire development and
first floor elevations. The Planning
Commission members discussed connections to Black Eagle to the south and a
future connection to the north and the potential liability.
Also tree plantings along the pole section of the proposed road and a
sidewalk out to Jean Root motioned to
recommend preliminary approval for Franklin Knolls of 1.
Livingston County Road
Commissioners review letter dated 12-9-05 2.
Howell Area Fire Authority
review letter dated 12-12-05 3.
Carlisle/Wortman review
letter dated 12-16-05 4.
Orchard, Hiltz &
McCliment review letter dated 12-19-05 5.
Drainage approval will be
given through Orchard, Hiltz & McCliment with their contact given to the
Livingston County Drain Commissioners office for their review. 6.
The idea of potentially
adding a walking path to the south border to Black Eagle will be done with
an easement 7.
Walking path to northern
border will be done between lots 11 & 12 8.
On the overall project to
limit tree removal 9.
Utility easement is to be
done within the 66’ Right of Way easement on the north and south side 10.
Sidewalk on the south side of
project starting at Dave Hamann seconded. Roll Call; Jim Anderson-yes, Jean Root-yes, John Lowe-yes, Dave Hamann-yes and Debra Wiedman-Clawson-yes. Motion
carried 5-0. Proposed Text
Amendment - Article XX Amendments - Section 20.03 C Notice of Hearing Governor Granholm will
sign a bill to amend the township Zoning Act to include the address of a
parcel proposed to be rezoned in publications and mailings.
Debra Wiedman- Jean Root motioned to
table this agenda item be tabled until the Governor signs the bill.
Jim Anderson seconded. Motion
carried 5-0. OLD BUSINESS Proposed Text
Amendment - Section 17.16 - Standards for Paul Siersma answered
the questions asked by the Planning Commission members at the November
meeting and reviewed the comments from Mike Kehoe. Jean Root motioned to
table this agenda item until Paul Siersma incorporates Mike Kehoe comments
and submits a clean copy for the January 24, 2006 meeting.
Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded. Motion
carried 5-0. Proposed Text
Amendment - Subdivision Control General Ordinance The Planning
Commission members asked Paul Siersma to contact Mike Kehoe for a yes or no
answer to the following question. Is
it necessary to enhance the State of Dave Hamann requested
to table this agenda item pending Mike Kehoe in collaboration with Carslisle/Wortman
to submit in writing how to proceed. This
should be placed on the January 12, 2006 Board of Trustees agenda.
The submittal date for that meeting is January 9, 2006 @ 12:00 p.m.
Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded. Motion
carried 5-0. Proposed Text
Amendment - Section 8.02 F 6 & 7 - Suburban Residential Uses Permitted
by Right Subject to Special Conditions Proposed Text
Amendment - Section 6.19 - Standards for Proposed Text
Amendment - Section 3.02 - Definition of Landscape Buffer The four agenda items
above were recently sent back to the Planning Commission by the Board of
Trustees. The Board of Trustees
felt it was unnecessary to have the landscape buffer language in four
different sections of the zoning ordinance.
Robert Hanvey has been in contact with Mike Kehoe and stated the
attorney agreed this should not be repeated in these various sections of the
zoning ordinance. Robert Hanvey
has been working on developing new text for landscape buffer and the
definition of landscape buffer, yet it is not ready to present to the
Planning Commission at this time. The Commissioners were
confused by this as they were under the impression the repetition was
suggested by Mike Kehoe. Paul Siersma noted the
other municipalities Carlsile/Wortman works with do not repeat within the
zoning ordinance. It becomes
cumbersome and may be overlooked when amending the zoning ordinance. Annette McNamara,
Zoning Administrator noted the proposed text “no lots or units shall gain
access from a road other than a road interior to the development” is item
7 in 8.01 F and item 7 in 8.02 F. She
does not want this to be overlooked. Debra Wiedman-Clawson
motioned for the Zoning Administrator to send the proposed text to Mike
Kehoe for a final determination. Once
Mike Kehoe submits this determination in writing, this should all be sent to
the Board of Trustees. Jim
Anderson seconded. Motion
carried 5-0. Planning
Commission Budget Discussion Debra Wiedman-Clawson
motion to table this agenda item until February 2006.
Jim Anderson seconded. Motion
carried 5-0. City of A letter sent to the
City of CALL TO THE
PUBLIC None heard. ADJOURNMENT Debra Wiedman-Clawson
motioned to adjourn the meeting at 9:38 p.m.
Dave Hamann seconded. Motion
carried 5-0. |