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MARION
TOWNSHIP PLANNING
COMMISSION AGENDA and DRAFT MINUTES
REGULAR
MEETING CALL TO ORDER: APPROVAL OF AGENDA FOR:
July 24, 2007 Regular Meeting CALL TO THE PUBLIC:
Agenda Items only 3 minute limit APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM:
June 26, 2007 Public Hearing
June 26, 2007 Regular Meeting
July 10, 2007 Special/Joint Meeting OLD BUSINESS: 1)
Fox Meadows/Mason &
Burkhart Roads site plan amendment 4 wide sidewalks on both sides
of Fox Meadows Court 2)
Proposed
Amendment Section 8.04 E #3 ERS Yard Set Back Requirements 3)
Proposed
Amendment Section 3.02 Figure 3-9 ERS Rear Yard Requirements diagram 4)
Proposed
Amendment Section 17.10 Wireless Communication Facilities 5)
Proposed Amendment
Section 6.20 New Private Roads Serving Single-Family, Multiple-Family
and Commercial Developments 6)
Proposed Amendment
Section 3.02 Figure 3-8 Cul-de-sac Front Yard Set Back Diagram 7)
Proposed Amendment
Section 6.19 B Lots to Have Access 8)
Proposed
Amendment Article VII Zoning Districts & Maps/Schedule of
Regulations 9)
Proposed Amendment
Section 6.14 Home Occupations 10)Proposed
Amendment Section 8.03 B#5 & D#15 & Section 17.29 Two Family
Dwelling 11)Proposed
Amendment Section 6.31 Family/Accessory Apartment 12)Proposed
Amendment Review of Definitions relating to lots 13)Proposed Amendment Section 4.03 E
add final inspection to receive Certificate of Compliance 14)Proposed Amendment Section 8.01 D 2
Rural Residential Private Stables 15)Proposed Amendment Section 8.02 D 1
Suburban Residential Private Stables 16)Proposed
Amendment Section 3.02 Definition of Pens, Corrals & Pasture &
Fence discussion 17)Proposed
Amendment Section 3.02 Definition of Easement NEW BUSINESS:
CALL TO THE PUBLIC: ADJOURNMENT:
MEMBERS PRESENT:
JOHN LOWE, CHAIRPERSON DAVE HAMANN, CO-CHAIRPERSON JEAN ROOT, SECRETARY
MEMBERS ABSENT:
JAMES
A. ANDERSON
DEBRA WIEDMAN-CLAWSON
OTHERS PRESENT:
ANNETTE
MCNAMARA, ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
JOHN ENOS, CARLISLE/WORTMAN
PHIL WESTMORELAND, ORCHARD, HILTZ & MCCLIMENT
ROBERT W. HANVEY, SUPERVISOR
LES ANDERSEN, TRUSTEE *********************************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER John Lowe called the meeting to order at 7:32 p.m. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Annette McNamara asked to have the Premier Farms
walk-through added to the agenda. She
asked the Planning Commission members to relay information from the walk
through to John Enos. Dave Hamann motioned to approve the July 24, 2007 regular
meeting agenda as amended. Jean
Root seconded. Motion Carried 3-0. INTRODUCTION OF MEMBERS The members of the Planning Commission introduced
themselves. Debra
Wiedman-Clawson and James L. Anderson were absent.
CALL TO THE PUBLIC John Lowe opened the call to the public. No response. John Lowe closed the call to
the public. APPROVAL OF MINUTES June
26, 2007 Public Hearing minutes Dave Hamann motioned to approve the June 26, 2007 public
hearing minutes. Jean Root
seconded. Motion
Carried 3-0. June
26, 2007 Regular Meeting minutes Dave Hamann motioned to approve the June 26, 2007 regular
meeting minutes. Jean Root
seconded. Motion Carried 3-0. July
10, 2007 Special/Joint Meeting minutes Dave Hamann motioned to approve the July 10, 2007 joint
meeting minutes. Jean Root
seconded. Motion
Carried 3-0. OLD BUSINESS Fox
Meadows Site Plan Amendment Chris Grzemkowicz, Desine Inc, presented the request to
eliminate the 5' wide sidewalks along one side of Fox Meadows Court.
The developer would like to put 4' wide sidewalks on both sides of
Fox Meadows Court. He noted the
Orchard, Hiltz & McCliment, Inc. review letter brought up American
Disability Act (ADA) compliance, a site condominium on private road does not
have to meet Phil Westmoreland said John Lowe noted John Enos said he is OK with 4' wide sidewalks and he noted
the Jean Root motioned to approve the amended Fox Meadows site
plan, print date 6-29-07, received date of 7-3-07, with the following
conditions; the applicant provide a signed waiver or a detail on the site
plan indemnifying Marion Township from ADA compliance liability.
Dave Hamann seconded. Roll
Call; Jean Root yes; Dave Hamann yes; John Lowe yes; Motion Carried 3-0. Premier
Farms Walk through Update The Planning Commission would like John Enos to be aware of
changes requested at the July 10, 2007 walk through. 1)
The 35'
setback on the north side of 2)
Buffering
requirement be observed along the south side of 3)
Buffering
requirement be observed along the north side of 4)
Mark Janeck
agreed to relocate apartments along the south side of The Planning Commission members have concerns regarding the
following items. 1)
How will the
master homeowner association and the smaller homeowners associations work? 2)
Will there
be one association to take care of common areas and roads? 3)
Should a
Special Assessment District be set up to repair roads damaged from
construction equipment from the beginning or require the developer to submit
a letter of credit or bond. 4)
Will outside
agencies, local and state, be attending the Planning Commission meetings to
discuss site plan issues or will they submit comments. 5)
Planning
Commission feels they have too many questions to address in one preliminary
review. 6)
When you
have an overlay and don't rezone each area as planned unit development you
cannot ask for off site improvements. John
Enos is not certain he agrees with this. Les Andersen said he spoke with Mike Crain at the Livingston
County Road Commission and Mike Crain wants 1 year to complete a traffic
study, then the Livingston County Road Commission will be satisfied.
Mike Crain has concerns John Enos wants Proposed
Amendment Section 8.04 E #3 ERS Yard Set Back Requirements Proposed
Amendment Section 3.02 Figure 3-9 ERS Rear Yard Requirements diagram The Planning Commission members are satisfied with the
amendments. Jean Root motioned to send Section 8.04 E #3 ERS Yard Set
Back Requirements dated May 17, 2007 and Section 3.02 figure 3-9 ERS Rear
Yard Requirements dated 5-17-07 to the Board of Trustees for review.
If there are no requests for changes, send to the Livingston County
Department of Planning for review and comment.
Dave Hamann seconded. Motion
Carried 3-0. Proposed
Amendment Section 17.10 Wireless Communication Facilities John Enos noted the shaded areas are amended text the
Planning Commission requested. Mike
Kehoe has reviewed the proposed language and approves. John Lowe asked if they should make an exception on the
three mile distance in the Highway Service District. John Enos said the applicant could look at a dimensional
variance. The Planning Commission members would like the following
changes made to the document. 1)
Page 1 of 8
Section A #5 - add adverse prior to the word effects 2)
Page 3 of 8
Section C 1 f - the first sentence should read ' The WCSF shall meet all
requirements of the zoning district in which it is located.' 3)
Page 3 of 8
Section C 1 h - the sentence should read 'The construction of the WCSF shall
be of monopole design.' 4)
Page 3 of 8
Section C 1 l - delete the last sentence 5)
Page 4 of 8
Section C 1 p - place 'approved by the Planning Commission after the word
justification 6)
Page 5 of 8
Section C 3 d (1) - should read 'The WCSF shall not exceed two hundred (200)
feet in height. 7)
Page 7 of 8
Section C 5 - the shaded section should read 'as required by Section C 3 e
(4)' Proposed
Amendment Section 3.02 Definitions for Wireless Communication Facilities 1)
Keep current
definition of 2)
Keep current
definition of Wireless Communication Antenna 3)
Keep current
definition of Wireless Communication Facilities and add items #1, #2 and #3 Jean Root motioned to hold a public hearing for Section
17.10 Wireless Communication Facilities on August 28, 2007 @ 7:15 p.m.
Dave Hamann seconded. Motion
Carried 3-0. Jean Root motioned to hold a public hearing for Section 3.02
Definitions for Wireless Communication Facilities on August 28, 2007 @ 7:15
p.m. Dave Hamann seconded.
Motion Carried 3-0. Proposed
Amendment Section 6.20 New Private Roads Serving Single-Family,
Multiple-Family and Commercial Developments The Planning Commission members reviewed and discussed the
comments from the Livingston County Department of Planning.
All agreed to keep the text as is and not follow the Livingston
County Department of Planning recommendations. Dave Hamann told the Planning Commission members the Board
of Trustees is working on a Private Road General Ordinance.
He summarized the history of Section 6.20 and the creation of a
General Ordinance. His opinion
is to keep the General Ordinance as originally intended, for the Board of
Trustees to enforce. Now with
the tie between the land division and zoning, he feels it has turned back to
a zoning issue. The township
attorney insists on land division text in the General Ordinance.
The Planning Commission will wait until Thursday night to see what
the Board of Trustees wants. Mr. Hanvey said to take a paragraph out of the Land Division
General Ordinance, the paragraph that allows splits with the possibility of
access. How will the review of a
deteriorating road be triggered without a land division? Discussion ensued on deteriorating private roads. Jean Root
motioned to send Section 6.20 New Private Roads Serving Single-Family,
Multiple-Family and Commercial Developments to the Board of Trustees.
After reviewing the Livingston County Department of Planning comments
no changes have been made. The
Planning Commission wants the Board of Trustees to review and approve as
submitted. Dave Hamann seconded.
Motion Carried 3-0. Proposed
Amendment Section 3.02 Figure 3-8 Cul-de-sac Front Yard Set Back
Diagram Jean Root
motioned to send Section 3.02 Figure 3-8 Cul-de-sac Front Yard Set Back
Diagram to the Board of Trustees for review and approval.
Dave Hamann seconded. Motion
Carried 3-0. Proposed
Amendment Section 6.19 B Lots to Have Access Jean Root motioned to send Section 6.19 B Lots to Have
Access to the Board of Trustees for review and approval.
Dave Hamann seconded. Motion
Carried 3-0. Proposed
Amendment Article VII Zoning Districts & Maps/Schedule of
Regulations John Enos suggested another public hearing, due to the
changes since the last public hearing. Jean
Root motioned to hold a public hearing on Article VII Zoning Districts
& Maps/Schedule of Regulations to include the changes to the Schedule of
Regulations, on August 28, 2007 @ 7:15 p.m.
Dave Hamann seconded. Motion
Carried 3-0. Proposed
Amendment Section 6.14 Home Occupations John Enos said the Planning Commission is comfortable with
Class I and Class II will need Special Use Permit language. Jean Root motioned to table this agenda item until John Enos
requests review by the Planning Commission.
Dave Hamann seconded. Motion
Carried 3-0. Proposed
Amendment Section 8.03 B#5 & D#15 & Section 17.29 Two Family
Dwelling Jean
Root motioned to hold a public hearing on Section 8.03 B#5 & D#15 on
August 28, 2007 @ 7:15 p.m. Dave
Hamann seconded. Motion
Carried 3-0. Jean Root motioned to hold a public hearing on Section 17.29
Two Family Dwelling on August 28, 2007 @ 7:15 p.m.
Dave Hamann seconded. Motion
Carried 3-0. Proposed
Amendment Section 6.31 Family/Accessory Apartment Jean Root asked John Enos to amend Section A #6 to read 'the
primary residence and the family accessory apartment must share common water
and septic, approved by the Livingston County Department of Public Health,
and electric facilities. Also in
the definition delete the word dwelling and replace with residence. Jean Root motioned to hold a public hearing on Section 6.31
Family/Accessory Apartment on August 28, 2007 @ 7:15 p.m.
Dave Hamann seconded. Motion
Carried 3-0. Jean Root motioned to hold a public hearing on Section 3.02
definition of Family/Accessory Apartment on August 28, 2007 @ 7:15 p.m.
Dave Hamann seconded. Motion
Carried 3-0. Proposed
Amendment Review of Definitions relating to lots John
Enos noted that Mike Kehoe has reviewed the definition and approves. Jean
Root motioned to table Section 3.02 Definitions relating to Lots to the
August 28, 2007 meeting. Dave
Hamann seconded. Motion carried 3-0. Proposed
Amendment Section 4.03 E add final inspection to receive Certificate
of Compliance Dave
Hamann asked Annette McNamara how many inspections she did on a land use
permit. Annette
McNamara said three. The
Planning Commission discussed the difficulty measuring with undulating
topography and other obstacles. They
would like to require a foundation survey if a structure is within 5 feet of
a set back. John
Enos said he was going to look at language other communities use and did
not get a chance to do that. Phil
Westmoreland said the requirement for a foundation survey could be made an
internal administrative policy, instead of putting the language in the
zoning ordinance. Annette
McNamara can put the requirement for a sealed survey as built of foundation
in the land use permit package so the builders will know this upfront. John
Enos and Annette McNamara will work on this together. Jean
Root motioned to table Section 4.03 E to the September 25, 2007 meeting,
with changes made by John Enos and submitted for the meeting.
Dave Hamann seconded. Motion
carried 3-0. Proposed
Amendment Section 8.01 D 2 Rural Residential Private Stables The
Planning Commission members agreed to table this agenda item until Debra
Wiedman-Clawson is present. Jean
Root motioned to table this agenda item to the August 28, 2007 meeting.
Dave Hamann seconded. Motion
carried 3-0. Proposed
Amendment Section 8.02 D 1 Suburban Residential Private Stables The
Planning Commission members agreed to table this agenda item until Debra
Wiedman-Clawson is present. Jean
Root motioned to table this agenda item to the August 28, 2007 meeting.
Dave Hamann seconded. Motion
carried 3-0. Proposed
Amendment Section 3.02 Definition of Pens, Corrals & Pasture &
Fence discussion The
Planning Commission members agreed to table this agenda item until Debra
Wiedman-Clawson is present. Jean
Root motioned to table this agenda item to the August 28, 2007 meeting.
Dave Hamann seconded. Motion
carried 3-0. Proposed
Amendment Section 3.02 Definition of Easement John
Lowe prefers to keep the definition of easement and definition of utility
easement separate, not blended. Jean
Root motioned to hold a public hearing for Section 3.02 Definition of
Easement on August 28, 2007 @ 7:15 p.m.
Dave Hamann seconded. Motion carried 3-0. CALL TO THE PUBLIC John Lowe opened the call to the public. Nuisance
questions for Mike Kehoe Jean Root asked the Planning Commission members if they
were comfortable with Mike Kehoes response to the nuisance question. The Planning Commission agreed to add this to the
August 28, 2007 meeting agenda with the Board of Trustees response. The Planning Commission members reviewed the site plan
sent over by Rick Terres, Howell Public Schools, showing the new location of
the cell tower. Mr. Hanvey asked if they need a land use permit to
erect the tower. John Enos answered no.
If other providers want to collocate on the tower, they will require
a site plan review by the Planning Commission (under the current text) and a
land use permit. Everyone believes the text will be amended by that time
and an administrative review by the Zoning Administrator will be the
requirement, and a land use permit. Jean Root motioned for Annette McNamara to draft a
letter to Rick Terres, Howell Public Schools thanking him for his
cooperation in relocating the cell tower.
If necessary, Annette McNamara will grant a land use permit for
providers collocating on the tower. Mr. Hanvey asked the Planning Commission members if the
The Planning Commission members will look into this. Jack Lowe closed the call to
the public. ADJOURNMENT Dave Hamann motioned to adjourn the meeting at 10:10
p.m. Jean Root seconded.
Motion Carried 3-0.
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