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                                 MARION TOWNSHIP

             AGENDA and DRAFT MINUTES

                         July 26, 2005                       

CALL TO ORDER:

MEMBERS PRESENT:  

MEMBERS ABSENT:

CALL TO THE PUBLIC:    Agenda Items Only – 3 minute limit

APPROVAL OF AGENDA:   July 26, 2005 Regular Meeting

APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR:   June 28, 2005 Regular Meeting         

OLD BUSINESS:          

  1)The Pines @ Kingswood Final Site Plan Review

  2)     Section 6.20 A Pre-existing Non-Conforming Private Roads

  3)     Section 6.20 B New Private Roads

 4)     Proposed Text Amendment Article XVIII Site Plan Review Requirements

5)     Site Plan Review Application & Checklist

6)     Proposed Text Amendment Rural Residential Uses Permitted by Special Use 

Permit 8.01 E 6 cemeteries, crematories & mausoleums (remove crematories) & 

17 Shooting ranges,  including gun, rifle, skeet, trap, pistol and archery clubs 

(remove all except archery clubs)

7)     Proposed Text Amendment Suburban Residential - Uses Permitted by Special Use

 Permit - 8.02 E 4 cemeteries, crematories & mausoleums (remove crematories)

8)     Proposed Text Amendment Rural Residential – Site Development Requirements 

8.01 F 6 & 7                                 

9)     Proposed Text Amendment Suburban Residential–Site Development Requirements 

8.02 F 6&7

10)Proposed Text Amendment - Condominium Projects – 6.18 F 1 & G

11)Proposed Text Amendment 6.19 B – Lots to have access

12)Proposed Text Amendment 3.02 – Definition of Landscape Buffer

13)Land Division Act Amendment 525     

14)Proposed Text Amendment Standards for Specific Land Uses - Section 17.07 

Cemeteries, Crematories & Mausoleums

15)Proposed Text Amendment Standards for Specific Land Uses - Section 17.27

Shooting Ranges (Rifle, Skeet, Trap, Pistol and Archery)

16)Proposed Text Amendment Standards for Specific Land Uses - Section 17.16 Group

 Day Care Homes

17)Proposed Text Amendment Standards for Specific Land Uses - Section 17.08 Child 

Care Centers

18)Proposed Text Amendment – Section 3.02 – Definition of Cemetery

19)Proposed Text Amendment – Section 3.02 – Definition of Child Care Center

NEW BUSINESS:   

  1)     Review of Proposed Zoning Map & Private Road Map

    2)     Orchard, Hiltz & McCliment, Inc. proposed Inspection Procedures

   3)    Set date for a Joint Meeting

CALL TO PUBLIC:

ADJOURNMENT:  

                                        DRAFT MINUTES

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:    JOHN LOWE, CHAIRPERSON

                                      DAVE HAMANN

                                      JIM ANDERSON

ABSENT:                       JEAN ROOT, SECRETARY

                                     DEBRA WIEDMAN-CLAWSON

OTHERS PRESENT:      ROBERT W. HANVEY, SUPERVISOR

                                    ANNETTE MCNAMARA, ZONING ADMINISTRATOR

                                    PHIL WESTMORELAND, ORCHARD, HILTZ & MCCLIMENT

                                     JOHN ENOS, CARLISLE/WORTMAN

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CALL TO ORDER

The meeting was called to order at 7:32 p.m.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA

Annette McNamara noted agenda item #1 under New Business should have been placed under

Old Business, and Kevin Novak, Orchard, Hiltz & McCliment is present tonight to discuss proposed

inspection procedures.  It was decided to move item #15 under Old Business to item #2 and

item #1 & 2 under New Business, to item #3 & 4 under Old Business.  Dave Hamann motioned to

approve the agenda for July 28, 2005 Planning Commission Regular Meeting as amended. 

Jim Anderson seconded.  Motion Carried 3-0.

INTRODUCTION OF MEMBERS

The Planning Commission members introduced themselves to the audience. Jean Root and

Debra Wiedman-Clawson are absent. 

CALL TO THE PUBLIC

John Lowe opened call to the public.  No response.  John Lowe closed the call to the public.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES

June 26, 2005 Regular Meeting Minutes

Dave Hamann motioned to table the June 26, 2005 minutes until Jean Root, Secretary and

Debra Wiedman-Clawson are present.  Jim Anderson seconded.  Motion Carried 3-0. 

OLD BUSINESS

The Pines at Kingswood

Bill Strebbing, Livingston Engineering updated the commissioners on the changes since

preliminary review.  The parcel has gone through the land division process and is here seeking

recommendation for final approval.

John Enos summarized his review letter dated July 13, 2005.  He noted Bill Strebbing addressed

his concerns on landscape buffering.  John Enos would like to see the tree preservation shown on

the Exhibit drawings.

Bill Strebbing discussed this with his attorney and is questioning the requirement for to be shown

on the Exhibit B.  Bill Strebbing is concerned as he may use the existing trees for sale at his

Christmas tree farm.  He feels thinning the trees will not have an effect on tree preservation.

John Enos said this will depend on the commissioners’ definition, yet he suggests a note on the

drawings ‘trees on individual lots will be preserved to the best of their ability.’

John Lowe wants to make sure the buyers are notified in the Master Deed and on the Exhibit B

drawings the perimeter landscape buffering is not to be disturbed by future homeowners. There

have been problems with homeowners removing the greenbelt buffering around the development.

Phil Westmoreland summarized his review letter dated July, 15, 2005.  He does not see any

outstanding issues that cannot be addressed during review of the construction drawings.

John Lowe questioned the basement elevations.

Phil Westmoreland said this will be corrected and will not have an impact on the grading. There a

still questions about the overflow for the detention and he will follow through with Ken Recker,

Livingston County Drain Commissioners Office, to make sure these are addresses.

John Lowe asked how unit 3 will be accessed.

Bill Strebbing answered there is an existing drawing across the wetland and has an existing culvert.

Discussion ensued on basement elevations and off site drainage easements.  Bill Strebbing noted a

builder in Kingswood built too low and this has forced him to build an off site pond. 

John Lowe noted county agency approval letters, Howell Area Fire Authority, dated 7.13.05,

LCDC letter email dated 7.5.05 indicating elevations for specific lots, and Livingston County Road

Commission letter dated 7.11.05.

Discussion on what type of process can be established to make sure first floor and basement

elevations are maintained when a land use permit is submitted.  Since there are only 7 lots this

should not be difficult to check the site plan and land use permit.

Dave Hamann motioned to recommend to the Board of Trustees, final approval for the Pines at

Kingswood , Tax Id #4710-36-300-012.  Contingent of review and approval of final revisions to

the Master Deed, By-Laws and Exhibit B drawings by Mike Kehoe, Township Attorney, Phil

Westmoreland, Township Engineer and the LCDC.  Jim Anderson seconded.  Roll Call -

John Lowe-yes, Dave Hamann-yes, Jim Anderson-yes.

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 17.27 Shooting Ranges (Rifle, Skeet, Trap,

Pistol and Archery

John Enos summarized the research he and Mike Kehoe have done to clarify the status of the

Howell Gun Club.  The Howell Gun Club wants to know if purchasing adjacent property is an

expansion of a non-conforming use.  This is a lawful use of land as existing and may be continued

although the use does not conform to the ordinance or amendment.  In this case the use is not

prohibited under the current ordinance, or its predecessors, but requires a conditional or special

use permit. 

John Luitink, 4757 Pingree Road , clarified to the commissioners how the property is access and

that they cannot change the placement.  He would like to know if additional fencing would be

helpful.

John Enos does not feel it is necessary unless the commissioners require this.

Discussion ensued on the safety issues, people need to be aware of where they are walking their

dogs, hunting.

John Luitink asked about buying additional land in the future.

John Lowe read from Mike Kehoe letter dated 7.18.05 stating there is no problem purchasing

additional land if it is used for buffering purposes.  When the commissioners amend Section 17.27

they need to keep the Howell Gun Club in mind and not create further non conformance.  He also

invited the Howell Gun Club to engage in the process of amending this section.

Review of proposed Zoning Map & Private Road Map

The commissioners discussed adopting the proposed zoning map as it is or waiting for property

north of 1-96 to be turned over to the City of Howell.  There were questions whether it is

necessary to hold a public hearing.  Existing Residential Subdivision-2 (ERS-2) is a district listed in

the legend and was published as such in 1992.  When the map was printed ERS-2 was not shown.

 John Enos does not think this is necessary to hold a public hearing; this was done when certain

parcels were rezoned, and this is an update of the map.  It was decided to publish the map in the

local newspaper as a public notice stating this map shows the rezoning that have taken place since

the last publication of the map.

Jim Anderson wants the most current update shown on the map.

Dave Hamann motioned to publish the updated zoning map.  Jim Anderson seconded. 

Motion Carried 3-0.

NEW BUSINESS

Proposed Inspection Procedures

Phil Westmoreland stated the proposed inspection procedures was the result of a discussion

between himself, Sue Lingle, Treasure and Robert W. Hanvey, Supervisor about consistency in

reviewing residential development construction and gave an overview of his submittal.  They will

performance what ever level of inspection the township wants.  He wants the township to be

aware the restrictions such as mass grading, they are not doing inspections, if they are on site

and see a problem they will make the township aware.

John Enos noted the inspection fees come out of the developers escrow account.

John Lowe asked about density reports.

Phil Westmoreland answered any reports that are submitted they will not be reviewed by Orchard,

Hiltz & McCliment.  They have been certified by professional and there is no need. This is to make

sure they are performing to specifications.

Dave Hamann asked if this would be mandatory for all developments.  Do Orchard, Hiltz &

McCliment become part of the townships liability if there are problems?

Phil Westmoreland answered yes.

Dave Hamann asked if this applied to all developments, private road developments.

Phil Westmoreland answered if they need public improvements, yes.  

Discussion ensued on how this will effect pre-existing non-conforming private road and township

liability.

Dave Hamann motioned to forward recommendation for approval of proposed inspection

procedures to the Board of Trustees for review and approval.  Jim Anderson seconded. 

Motion Carried 3-0.

OLD BUSINESS

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 6.20 B New Private Roads and Section 6.20 A

 New Private Roads

John Lowe asked Phil Westmoreland if he had the standards.

Phil Westmoreland answered that is the handout they received tonight.

John Enos will submit changes requested by the commissioners for the August 23, 2005 meeting.

Phil Westmoreland asked the Planning Commission members to think about allowing new private

roads to be built with gravel.  If so he will develop a set of standards that will apply.  They can let

them know at the next meeting.

Dave Hamann motioned to table 6.20 A & 6.20 B when John Enos submits a final documents for

the August 23, 2005 meeting.  Jim Anderson seconded.  Motion Carried 3-0.

Proposed Text Amendment - Article XVIII Site Plan Review Requirements & Site

 Plan Review Application & Checklist

John Enos noted the Board of Trustees was asked if they would like to review preliminary

submittals and they said yes.  Mike Kehoe has review this text and given his approval.

The Planning Commission members asked John Enos to submit a copy including Mike Kehoe

suggestions without highlighting for the August 23, 2005 meeting.

Dave Hamann motioned to table items #4 & #5 until John Enos submits final copy. 

Jim Anderson seconded.  Motion Carried 3-0.

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 8.01 E 6 - Rural Residential uses Permitted by

Special Use Permit - Cemeteries, Crematories & Mausoleums and Section 8.01 E 17

Shooting ranges, including gun, rifle, skeet, trap, pistol and archery clubs

Dave Hamann motioned to send Section 8.01 E 6 to Livingston County Department of Planning

for review and approval, if approved it will then be sent to the Board of Trustees for approval. 

Section 8.01 E 17 to be placed on the August 23, 2005 agenda.  Jim Anderson seconded. 

Motion Carried 3-0.

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 8.02 E 4 - Suburban Residential uses Permitted

by Special Use Permit - Cemeteries, Crematories & Mausoleums

Dave Hamann motioned to send Section 8.02 E 4 to Livingston County Department of Planning

for review and approval, if approved it will then be sent to the Board of Trustees for approval. 

Jim Anderson seconded.  Motion Carried 3-0.

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 3.02 - Definitions - Landscape Buffers

The commissioners asked John Enos to make the following changes and submit for the

August 23, 2005 meeting.

#1 Berm - replace audible to auditory and remove ‘and a transition between uses of differing

intensity.’

#2 Buffer Zone - insert will between than and serve.  Insert may between below and function.

Insert and between zone and therefore.

Joint Meeting

Annette McNamara will contact the Board of Trustees members and Zoning Board of Appeals

members to find out the dates they are available in early September.  A date will be set at the

August 23, 2005 meeting.

Land Division Amendment 525

John Enos will submit proposed changes to the Subdivision Control Ordinance General Ordinance

for the August 23, 2005 meeting.

John Enos suggested the Planning Commission members look at proposed text he has developed

for a conditional zoning ordinance.  He asked that they let him know if they are interested and he

will submit for their review.

John Enos reminded the Planning Commission members of the State Planning Conference taking

place in September 2005 and suggested they start receiving the publication “Michigan Association

of Planners.”

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 8.01 F 6 & 7 - Rural Residential - Site

Development Requirements

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 8.02 F 6 & 7 - Suburban Residential - Site

Development Requirements

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 6.18 F 1 & G - Condominium Projects

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 6.19 B - Access Controls

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 17.07 - Standards for Specific Land Uses -

Cemeteries, Crematories & Mausoleums

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 17.16 - Standards for Specific Land Uses -

Group Day Care Homes

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 17.08 - Standards for Specific Land Uses -

Child Care Centers

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 3.02 - Definitions - Cemeteries

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 3.02 - Definitions - Child Care Centers

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 17.08 - Standards for Specific Land Uses -

Child Care Centers

Dave Hamann motioned to table the above agenda items (numbered 8 through 19) to the

August 23, 2005 meeting.  Jim Anderson seconded.  Motion Carried 3-0.

CALL TO THE PUBLIC

None heard.

ADJOURNMENT

Dave Hamann motioned to adjourn the meeting at 10:15 p.m.  Jim Anderson seconded. 

Motion Carried 3-0.