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                                 MARION TOWNSHIP

                  PLANNING COMMISSION

            AGENDA and DRAFT MINUTES

                     OCTOBER  25, 2005  

                        PUBLIC HEARING    

CALL TO ORDER:

MEMBERS PRESENT:  

MEMBERS ABSENT:

CALL TO THE PUBLIC:    Agenda Items Only – 3 minute limit

APPROVAL OF AGENDA:  OCTOBER 25, 2005

APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR:  None              

OLD BUSINESS: 

1)     Proposed Text Amendment Standards for Specific Land Uses - Section 17.27 Shooting Ranges  

(Rifle, Skeet, Trap, Pistol and Archery)

2)      Proposed Text Amendment Standards for Specific Land Uses - Section 17.16 Group Day 

Care Homes

3)      Proposed Text Amendment Standards for Specific Land Uses - Section 17.08 Child Care 

Centers

4)      Proposed Text Amendment – Section 3.02 – Definition of Cemetery

5)      Proposed Text Amendment – Section 3.02 – Definition of Child Care Center

 

NEW BUSINESS:  

CALL TO PUBLIC:

ADJOURNMENT:

                            PUBLIC HEARING - DRAFT MINUTES

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:  JOHN LOWE, CHAIRPERSON

                                    DAVE HAMANN

                                   JEAN ROOT, SECRETARY

                                   DEBRA WIEDMAN-CLAWSON

                                   JIM ANDERSON

ABSENT:                     NONE             

OTHERS PRESENT:     ROBERT W. HANVEY, SUPERVISOR

                                   ANNETTE MCNAMARA, ZONING ADMINISTRATOR

                                   PAUL SIERSMA, CARLISLE/WORTMAN

                                      

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CALL TO ORDER

The meeting was called to order at 7:15 p.m.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA

Dave Hamann motioned to approve the October 23, 2005 Planning Commission public hearing 

agenda.  Jim Anderson seconded.  Motion Carried 5-0. 

INTRODUCTION OF MEMBERS

John Lowe, Jean Root, Dave Hamann, Jim Anderson and Debra Wiedman-Clawson were present. 

CALL TO THE PUBLIC

John Lowe opened call to the public. 

Bonnie White, 3546 Bent Drive .  Bonnie White addressed the proposed text, Section 17.16.  

She handed out a copy of the State of Michigan requirements for Group Day Care. The State of

Michigan requirements do not include paved roads or fenced in yards.  Bonnie White lives on ten 

acres, located on a dirt road.  She is currently licensed for six children.  Bonnie White opposed the

restrictions in the text and would like the Planning Commission members to consider her 

comments when deliberating.

Paul Siersma noted the document Bonnie White handed out was considered when revising this text.

This does not restrict Marion Township from having additional restrictions.

Mr. Keith Rushlow, 484 Brighton Road .  Keith Rushlow feels this text is singling out child care home

occupation, adding restrictions not required of other home occupations. He is also concerned there

is a shortage of quality child care.

John Lowe closed the call to the public.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES

None

OLD BUSINESS

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 17.27 Shooting Ranges (Rifle, Skeet, Trap, 

Pistol and Archery

Paul Siersma noted there have been two edits per the Commissioners request.  Section A, item 

number 2; made the paragraph more general.  Section Commissioners, item G; changed the hours 

from 9:00 a.m. to dusk.

John Lowe opened the call to the public.

Tom Bauer, 5757 Lange Road . Tom Bauer noted the minimum parcel size of 80 acres. His first 

question; are there any parcels left in Marion Township of that size? Second, if the facility is strictly

an indoor range, would the 80 acre minimum apply?

Paul Siersma will look into the indoor range requirements.

John Lowe noted there are many parcels in Marion Township over 80 acres.

Discussion ensued on other communities with indoor only ranges.  Debra Wiedman-Clawson will

look into the requirements of those communities before the next meeting.

Jean Root noted a letter from Mike Kehoe stating the 80 acre minimum or the landscape buffering

increased.

John Lowe closed the call to the public for Section 17.27 at 7:30 p.m.

This agenda item will be tabled until the November 22, 2005 Planning Commission meeting.

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 17.16 - Standards for Specific Land Uses - Group

Day Care Homes

Paul Siersma noted there has been one change per the Commissioners request.  Section B, item 

number 7; the square footage per child in the play area has been reduced to 100 square foot per

child.

It was established the definition for Group Day Care Homes is under Day Care Group Home.

Les Kern, 1775 Foxridge.  He is licensed for 12 children, must he be on a paved road if this text is 

adopted.  Mr. Ken would like to divide his property and build another home, maybe increase the 

number of children he is licensed for.  Mr. Kern lives on a dirt road; this proposed text would affect

his business.

Paul Siersma answered yes, if the text is adopted it would require a paved road.

Jean Root clarified the number of trips, the influx of cars at a certain time of the day. 

Discussion ensued on the necessity of paved roads and the difference between a two acre lot with 

12 children and a 20,000 square foot lot with 12 children.

Paul Siersma will modify text for the November 22, 2005 meeting to include different zoning 

districts with different requirements.  Also requiring paved roads only if more than 12 children.

The members of the audience would also like the Commissioners to review the State of Michigan

requirements in relationship to Family Group Day Care.  Also, the fencing requirement and they

feel 100 square feet is too much.

John Lowe closed the call to the public for Section 17.16 at 8:10 p.m.

This agenda item will be tabled until the November 22, 2005 Planning Commission meeting.  

A public hearing to be held in December 2005 may be scheduled at that time.

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 17.08 - Standards for Specific Land Uses - 

Child Care Centers

John Lowe noted Section B, item number 6; 5,000 square feet per child is too excessive he wants 

this changed to 100 square foot per child.  Also, Section B, item number 7, is the fencing 

requirement excessive?

John Lowe opened the call to the public.  No response

Discussion ensued on whether to limit the number of children or increasing the acreage

requirements.  Debra Wiedman-Clawson believes the State of Michigan and the lot size will 

mandate the number of children.

Paul Siersma will make changes for the November 22, 2005 meeting.

This agenda item will be tabled until the November 22, 2005 Planning Commission meeting.

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 3.02 - Definitions - Child Care Centers

This agenda item was discussed with Section 17.08 - Standards for Specific Land Uses - 

Child Care Centers.  This agenda item will be tabled until the November 22, 2005 Planning

Commission meeting. 

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 3.02 - Definitions - Cemeteries

Paul Siersma researched the public health issues in the wellhead protection area. State of Michigan  

does not have restrictions, no statutes, no regulation of location of cemeteries.

John Lowe asked who the oversight agency for municipal wellheads is.  He asked Paul Siersma to 

consult with them, if they do not have a problem with this then he is ok with it.

John Lowe opened the call to the public.  No response. 

This agenda item will be tabled until the November 22, 2005 Planning Commission meeting. 

NEW BUSINESS

None

CALL TO THE PUBLIC

Charles Musson, 333 Triangle Lake Road .  Charles Musson if Marion Township requires a home 

occupation to be in the home or can it be run from an accessory building?  The State of Michigan  

requires it be located in the home. 

ADJOURNMENT

Dave Hamann motioned to adjourn the meeting at 8:35 p.m.  Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded.

Motion Carried 5-0.

                          REGULAR MEETING @ 7:30 PM

CALL TO ORDER:

MEMBERS PRESENT:  

MEMBERS ABSENT:

CALL TO THE PUBLIC:    Agenda Items Only – 3 minute limit

APPROVAL OF AGENDA:    October 25, 2005 Regular Meeting

APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR:  

                                         September 26, 2005 Special Joint Meeting

                                         September 27, 2005 Regular Meeting            

OLD BUSINESS:       

1)      Proposed Text Amendment Article XVIII Site Plan Review Requirements

2)      Proposed Text Amendments to General Ordinance Subdivision Control

3)     Proposed Text Amendment Section 17.07 Cemeteries, Crematories & Mausoleums 

    (location requirements)

4)     Planning Commission budget discussion

5)     City of Howell Master Plan Amendment – John Enos to report on joint meeting                 

NEW BUSINESS:  

    1)     Set date for a second monthly meeting

2)     Planning Commission Rules & Procedures (Powers and Duties of the Planning 

     Commission item #9)    

CALL TO PUBLIC:

ADJOURNMENT:

                     REGULAR MEETING -  DRAFT MINUTES

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:    JOHN LOWE, CHAIRPERSON

                                      DAVE HAMANN

                                      JEAN ROOT, SECRETARY

                                      DEBRA WIEDMAN-CLAWSON

                                      JIM ANDERSON

ABSENT:                        NONE

OTHERS PRESENT:      ROBERT W. HANVEY, SUPERVISOR

                                     ANNETTE MCNAMARA, ZONING ADMINISTRATOR

                                     PAUL SIERSMA, CARLISLE/WORTMAN                 

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CALL TO ORDER

The meeting was called to order at 8:40 p.m.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA

Dave Hamann motioned to approve the October 23, 2005 Planning Commission regular meeting 

agenda.  Jim Anderson seconded.  Motion Carried 5-0. 

INTRODUCTION OF MEMBERS

John Lowe, Jean Root, Dave Hamann, Jim Anderson and Debra Wiedman-Clawson were present.  

CALL TO THE PUBLIC

No response.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Jean Root motioned to approve the September 26, 2005 joint meeting minutes. Debra 

Wiedman-Clawson seconded.  Motion Carried 4-0.  Jim Anderson abstained.

Jean Root noted she spoke with Annette McNamara earlier today regarding the September 27, 2005

regular meeting minutes. Jean Root asked Annette McNamara to make the corrections to these 

minutes for tonight’s meeting.  The minutes have been corrected.  Dave Hamann motioned to 

approve the September 27, 2005 regular meeting minutes as amended. 

Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded.  Motion Carried 4-0.  Jim Anderson abstained.

Dave Hamann motioned to approve the September 27, 2005, Public Hearing minutes. 

Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded.  Motion Carried 4-0.  Jim Anderson abstained.   

OLD BUSINESS

Proposed Text Amendment - Article XVIII Site Plan Review Requirements

Paul Siersma will submit the following changes to the proposed text for the next regularly 

scheduled meeting.

1.        Section 18.02, item A; construction plan approval prior to a land balancing permit being issued.

2.        Section 18.06; add that landscaping and the first course of black top down prior to first land 

     use permit being issued.

Dave Hamann motioned to table until the November 22, 2005 regular meeting. 

Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded.  Motion Carried 5-0.

Proposed Text Amendments - General Ordinance Subdivision Control

Paul Siersma will submit text showing the legislative requirements of Act 525 and other required 

updates to the ordinance for the November 14, 2005 special meeting. The Planning Commission 

will send the legislative requirements on to the Board of Trustees for their review and 

approval/denial. The additional changes will be reviewed by the Planning Commission members 

and sent on to the Board of Trustees when ready.

Dave Hamann motioned to table until November 14, 2005 Special Meeting. 

Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded.  Motion Carried 5-0. 

Proposed Text Amendment - Section 17.07 - Standards for Specific Land Uses - 

Cemeteries, Crematories & Mausoleums (location requirements)

Dave Hamann motioned to table until November 22, 2005 regular meeting.  Jim Anderson

seconded.  Motion Carried 5-0.

Planning Commission Budget Discussion

Debra Wiedman-Clawson needs more time to discuss the budge with Mr. Hanvey. Dave Hamann 

motioned to table until November 22, 2005 regular meeting.  Jim Anderson seconded.  

Motion Carried 5-0.

City of Howell Master Plan Amendment

Paul Siersma informed the Commissioners that John Enos was still working with the City of Howell 

Planner (a Carlisle/Wortman Associates, Inc. employee) to arrange a joint planning commission 

meeting.

Dave Hamann motioned to table the agenda item until John Enos was available to comment on 

November 22, 2005.  Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded.  Motion Carried 5-0.

NEW BUSINESS

Set date for a second monthly meeting

Dave Hamann motioned to set a second meeting on November 14, 2005, Mike Kehoe to attend.

The agenda items will be Section 6.20 A, Pre-Existing Non-Conforming Private Roads, Section 6.20B

New Private Roads and Subdivision Control Ordinance.  Debra Wiedman-Clawson seconded. 

Motion Carried 5-0.

Planning Commission Rules & Procedures (Powers and Duties of the Planning 

Commission item #9)

This item was placed on the agenda by mistake.  No action taken.

CALL TO THE PUBLIC

Jean Root motioned to place the Planning Commission Annual Organizational Meeting to be placed

under new business on the November 22, 2005 regular meeting agenda.  Jim Anderson seconded.  

Motion Carried 5-0.

ADJOURNMENT

Dave Hamann motioned to adjourn the meeting at 9:38 p.m.  Jean Root seconded.  

Motion Carried 5-0.