November 6, 2003

               

MEMBERS PRESENT:    Jim Anderson, Debra Wiedman-Clawson, Dave Hamann,

                                            John Lowe, Jean Root

MEMBERS ABSENT:         John Lowe (arrived at 6:45 p.m.)

                                              Jean Root (left at 7:00 p.m.)  

 

OTHERS PRESENT:        Kathleen Kline-Hudson, Livingston County Planning Department

                                             Brian Shorkey, Livingston County Planning Department

                                             Bob Hanvey, Township Supervisor

                                              Annette McNamara, Zoning Administrator

                                               

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CALL TO ORDER

Dave Hamann called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA

Debra Wiedman-Clawson stated Call to Public needs to be added after approval of agenda for agenda items 

only with a three minute limit for comments. Jean Root made a motion to approve the agenda as amended. 

Jim Anderson seconded.  Motion carried 4-0.

CALL TO PUBLIC

No response.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Jean Root pointed out corrections:

-          Page 2, discussion reflecting conservation area in old Master Plan regarding 1 unit per 20 acres should 

be reflected. After the phrase “shall not exceed,” the language “current Master Plan densities” should be added.

Jean Root made a motion to accept the minutes as amended from the October 20, 2003 meeting. Debra 

Wiedman-Clawson seconded.  Motion carried 4-0.

SET PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR RZN #7-03

TAX ID #4710-01-200-018

Jean Root made a motion to set the Public Hearing for RZN# 7-03, Tax ID # 4710-01-200-018, for December 15, 2003 at

 7:15 p.m.  Jim Anderson seconded. Motion carried 4-0.

FUTURE LAND USE DISCUSSION

Brian Shorkey presented Future Land Use Map with changes from October 20, 2003 meeting:

 

-          Mixed Residential (MR) area that was formerly called Urban Residential (UR) was expanded and was brought to

        sewer district, west of D-19 to North of I-96, creating a C-shape.

-          Two sewer districts are delineated with different colors, labeled District I & II. There is 7,445 acres in conservation 

      district, 256 acres commercial and 351 acres MR.

-          Debra Wiedman-Clawson pointed out section for condominium development north of the Meadows and Hometown 

       that was rezoned UR.

 

Kathleen Kline-Hudson asked how the parcels with different zoning districts in the conservation designation can be addressed.

The densities allowed in the conservation designation could be applied into the other part of parcel with different 

designation. Debra Wiedman-Clawson pointed out this is a wet area but sewer and water can work around it. 

Delineating line should be moved to run along the line of the commercial, east of Woodberry, north of Francis.

 Debra Wiedman-Clawson commented there should be consistency with map saying it’s SR and road criteria. After 

discussion regarding industrial property noted as SR, it will change to commercial.

Brian Shorkey stated property owned by state under District I and II would not be inappropriate to reserve for park land.

The Sanitarium Road property would fall into conservation area.

Jim Anderson questioned the Meduim Density Residential (MDR) district. Brian Shorkey stated that was where it did not 

fall into sewer district, but was in a non-sewer residential. Name changed to medium density and SR due to falling out of 

District I. Jim Anderson suggested a separate map for conservation area to avoid any confusion with present map or 

outline conservation district and do not color it. John Lowe pointed out problem with restricted density in the conservation 

area, over and above what the underlying zoning was – 1 structure per 20 acres is unacceptable. The conservation area 

does not work.  He also asked could you add 500 feet buffer to woodlands. Debra Wiedman-Clawson suggested changing 

the wording to show less housing, drop 1 structure per 20 acres.

(Jean Root left at 7:00 p.m.) Kathleen Kline-Hudson explained format for categories:  first paragraph intent, second 

paragraph tells how much acreage in that category and where it’s located, third paragraph recommended development 

density and with corresponding zoning district.

Discussion of handout:

Manufactured Housing (MH) – first paragraph, change last sentence to read, “…with close proximity to fire and police 

protection and other municipal amenities.”

Lakes Residential – Dave Hamann pointed out ERS-2 is referenced but everything is ERS-1 and 18,000 square feet. 

Kathleen Kline-Hudson questioned if we should limit/restrict development of the still available lots in those yellow areas? 

For future land use should that become a designation that corresponds to the ERS-2. John Lowe said no. This will be taken 

out of zoning book and left ERS-1 and Lake Residential.

Mixed Residential – Add range of 6-10 per acre; change description of ½ mile east on D-19 to a ¼ mile; acreage will 

change.

Suburban Residential – Acreage should change due to boundary change in MR to SR.

Medium Density Residential (MDR) – language is okay. Leave at 1 acre.

Low Density Residential (LDR)  - Dave Hamann pointed out not all OSR’s were changed to LDR on map. There are 

no PUD’s in that area.  The open space will take place of PUD’s. Dave Hamann questioned does township want to 

leave one dwelling unit per two acres for LDR. In the third paragraph, the portion that reads from “Where soils present 

particularly…” on should be deleted.

NON-RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS AND CORRESPONDING ZONING

Commercial (C) – No changes to wording. 256 acres of land needs to be added on  map. HC should be changed to HS.

Industrial (I) – The section that reads, “It is anticipated that within this land area, future transfer…”, will be left until 

transferred area is subject to change.

Community Facilities (CF) – Master Plan applies more to structures. Reference to the new and MHOG Waster Treatment 

Plant should be inserted in second paragraph.

PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE DISCUSSION

Kathleen Kline-Hudson distributed Open House flyer. The memo, dated 11/4/03, regarding Frank at Data Superior was 

discussed. The cost quoted was $47.50 per 1000 sheet and about 4000 copies will be needed. 

Jean Root suggested having an open house and then set second presentation to answer FAQ’s.

Open House date was set for January 15, 2004 at 5:30-9:00.  Presentations will be scheduled for 6:30 and 7:30 with an 

opportunity to ask questions.

REVIEW OF DISPLAY MATERIALS

Proposed display materials will be:

-          basic questions regarding the planning process

-          community survey display

-          existing land use display

-          proposed future land use display

-          various maps such as soil classifications, septic limitations, slope classifications

-          notebooks of draft Comprehensive Plan displayed

Presentation regarding Future Land Use will be approximately 20-30 minutes. Survey results and future land use language

 will be distributed to public at the open house.

A mock presentation by Kathleen Kline-Hudson including materials will take place before the December 15, 2003 Planning 

Commission meeting.

CALL TO THE PUBLIC

Jim Barnwell appeared on behalf of the Premiere Farms/Cascade development that will be submitted. It was

agreed that data that was conceptually approved be provided to the Planning Commission.

ADJOURNMENT

Dave Hamann made a motion to adjourn at 9:15 p.m.  Jim Anderson seconded.

Motion carried 4-0.

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