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                                 MARION TOWNSHIP

                        DRAFT MINUTES

                            11-10-2004  

                 COMPREHENSIVE PLANPUBLIC HEARING

  MEMBERS PRESENT:  JOHN LOWE, JEAN ROOT, JIM ANDERSON, DAVE HAMANN

                                   DEBRA WIEDMAN-CLAWSON

OTHERS PRESENT:   ANNETTE MCNAMARA, ZONING ADMINISTRATOR

                                           ROBERT W. HANVEY, TOWNSHIP SUPERVISOR

                                           MIKE KEHOE, MILLER KEHOE & ASSOCIATES

                                           JOHN ENOS, CARLISLE/WORTMAN ASSOCIATES, INC.

                                           KRISTEEN LUNDEEN, ORCHARD, HILTZ & McCLIMENT, INC.

                                           KATHERINE KLINE-HUDSON, LIVINGSTON COUNTY DEPARTMENT  

                                                                               OF PLANNING

 

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CALL TO ORDER

The meeting was called to order at 7:30

APPROVAL OF AGENDA

John Lowe presented the agenda.  Debra Wiedman-Clawson moved to approve the agenda as 

submitted.   Dave Hamann supported the motion.  Motion Carried 5-0.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES

John Lowe presented the minutes of the September 27, 2004 , special meeting. Jean Root 

moved to approve the minutes as presented. Jim Anderson supported the motion. 

Motion Carried 5-0.

Public Hearing for Comprehensive Plan

John Lowe asked the audience if there where any questions or comments on the proposed 

Comprehensive Plan. Jeff Barber of 848 Wright Road expressed concerns regarding the 

property, which is currently Marion Oaks Golf Course Golf Course.  Jeff Barber asked if the 

property was zoned as Suburban Residential (SR) and inquired about the possibility of that 

property having access to sewer.  Jean Root stated that the map reflects what the township 

anticipates in the future.  She also stated that the Parker High School has tentatively proposed 

bringing a sewer line down D-19 but only with enough capacity for the school. Robert Hanvey 

stated that there is no written commitment between the parties at this time. Jean Root stated

that the Township anticipates going forward at some point once current capacity is reached 

for water and sewer.  She stated that the next build out will encompass the yellow area on the 

map in two phases.  Jeff Barber stated that he fears that this will be the springboard for

development of the Marion Oaks Golf Course property.  Jean Root stated this issue has not

changed since 1996.  Jeff Barber asked if the developer could do anything to change this. 

Jean Root stated that the developer could apply for a rezoning but it would not be consistent

with the Master Plan and therefore would be denied. 

Charles Musson of 333 Triangle Lake Road stated that he was under the impression that in the

Rural Residential (RR) district, the only way you can create a subdivision is either have it a 

rezoning or metes and bounds description to get the lot size under 2 acres.  John Lowe stated 

that is not necessarily true, for a site condo there is no rezoning required.  Dave Hamann 

stated that for RR there is a 1 acre 2 acre countage.  He stated that anything other than low

density residential you could only have 2 acres.  Dave Hamann stated that Charles Musson is 

reading in the Comprehensive Plan that it is being changed to you can only have two acres.  

The build out analysis was discussed.  Kathleen Kline-Hudson stated that the Comprehensive

Plan is a guide and the zoning ordinance will deal with the particulars.   Dave Hamann read 

from the proposed Comprehensive Plan, periodically update the Comprehensive Plan and 

associated ordinances where necessary to reflect the Comprehensive Plan. This issue was 

discussed further at length.  John Lowe asked if the Planning Commission members were 

satisfied with the current proposed text.  They replied that they were.

Jeff Barber of 848 Wright Road reiterated his concerns regarding the Marion Oaks Golf Course

Golf Course property.

Steven Gronow of 3800 Chilson Road had questions regarding the proposed zoning. Steven 

Gronow expressed concerns regarding lack of opportunities for affordable housing. Steven 

Gronow presented written comments on the proposed Comprehensive Plan, which he presented 

to the Planning Commission.  The Planning Commission stated that they would review his 

comments and take them into consideration.  These written comments are attached as part of the 

minutes.

John Lowe presented a letter written by Mary Bahr of 3201 Grass Lake Court , commenting on the

proposed Comprehensive Plan.  These written comments will be attached to the minutes.

Kathleen Kline-Hudson wanted to state that there was an additional opportunity for the public to

comment on the Comprehensive Plan through a display that has been available for viewing for 

the last ten days.  Comment cards were offered and there was not any response.

John Lowe asked if there where any other questions or comments from the audience. There was 

no response.

Kathleen Kline-Hudson presented the proposed cover for the Comprehensive Plan. The Planning 

Commission reviewed the cover and agreed to approve it.

ADJOURNMENT

Dave Hamann moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:00 p.m.  Jean Root supported the motion.

Motion Carried 5-0.